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Poster: KKK Video Date: Sep 16, 2007 8:07am
Forum: stock_footage Subject: Re: About (Pal) Video Footage

All my clips in this section are in PAL format (except for the extracts called "Modern History"). If someone would like to mix some of them with clips in NTSC format, I guess you'd better cut some sky or ground - scaling isn't recommended. I haven't learned how to do this cutting yet, but experienced editors will know.

This post was modified by Eva Vikstrom on 2007-09-16 15:06:51

This post was modified by Eva Vikstrom on 2007-09-16 15:07:47

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBridgewater Video Date: Sep 16, 2007 11:45am
Forum: stock_footage Subject: Re: About (Pal) Video Footage

Hello Eva, good to hear from you. I am wondering if there is any chance you are confusing PAL with widescreen. Broadcast standards (NTSC or PAL) have little to do with aspect ratio (normal or widescreen). Normally a PAL video is produced for use in Europe or Asia, and NTSC is produced for here in the America's. A PAL video WILL NOT play on an American TV. I believe it has something to do with broadcast cycles and video refresh rates. If I produce a video for use overseas I have to produce it in PAL or it will be useless. I may be oversimplifying, but that is my understanding of the concept. I have noticed you are producing widescreen clips (They look great) but I don't believe any scaling would be required to be used in editing. Of course, I may have a false impression, but as an editor this has been my experience in the past. I produced a video for use in Russia some time ago and it had to be in PAL or it was unwatchable on their TVs. Many years ago, I had to have a special VCR to convert the signals for use on PAL videos made overseas. This is one of the wonders of producing videos on a computer, it makes it easy to change broadcast standard (PAL or NTSC). you just choose the standard you want when you burn the DVD. If the original data is in PAL, the computer will convert, or reencode it to NTSC. In simple terms, The player (DVD or VCR) and the reciever (TV or Monitor) have to be set to the same setting (PAL or NTSC) as the recorded medium, or you get nothing but noise. Please forgive me if I am misunderstanding what we are talking about. For that matter, if a real tech person reads this and would care to give a better expanation, that would be great......Ivan

This post was modified by Bridgewater Video on 2007-09-16 18:45:06

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Poster: KKK Video Date: Sep 16, 2007 1:10pm
Forum: stock_footage Subject: Re: About (Pal) Video Footage

Thanks for the explanation! My editing software says that PAL standard is 720x576 and NTSC standard 720x480. If I want to make a movie where my own stuff in PAL standard is mashed up with clips from a Jam Handy movie, I'll have to do something about the different proportions. - Eva

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBridgewater Video Date: Sep 16, 2007 2:35pm
Forum: stock_footage Subject: Re: About (Pal) Video Footage

OK, I am getting more confused as we go along. I went to the PAL settings on my computer and it shows a frame render size of 720X480. In desperation I went to Wikipedia. Here is a link to what I found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL

I suppose all that matters is that your clips look great when I use them.....Thanks, Ivan

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBridgewater Video Date: Sep 16, 2007 5:09pm
Forum: stock_footage Subject: Re: About (Pal) Video Footage

Hmmmm....Just one final note. I told my Vegas NLE I wanted to produce a PAL video. Vegas said fine, the dafault frame size for your project is 720X480. I then told Vegas to render the PAL project. Vegas said the final render would be at 720X576. I have decided I am just not destined to understand PAL video. I also noticed Wikipedia said PAL is the better system, so now I am not only confused but a little miffed at NTSC...... All joking aside Eva, I love video and I love learning everything I can about it. You taught me something new today and that puts a smile on my face.....Best wishes, Ivan

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Poster: KKK Video Date: Sep 16, 2007 11:04pm
Forum: stock_footage Subject: Re: About (Pal) Video Footage

Thanks! If I export a mashup like the one mentioned in PAL 720x576 there'll be a quality loss in the Jam Handy clip, but a quality loss in my PAL stuff if I export the mashup in NTSC 720x480. It's easier to use "the other" clip for effects where proportions don't matter so much.